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One Saibaman vs Planet Earth
Topic Started: Dec 15 2014, 12:16 AM (2,505 Views)
myst1c
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Can the combined forces of our armies stop it?
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Dec 19 2014, 08:18 PM
I'm just going to say that humans wouldn't even be able to see the Saibaman. Gohan had to really struggle to see it battling, and he was already over 1,000 in battle power. Humans with a power level of ~5 don't have the ability to see the thing at all. Perhaps some sort of heat seeking missile could be used on it, but I bet the Saibaman could survive it. A nuke is needed here if it could even hit the thing.
Saibamen don't cruise at that speed, this one would be seen, especially since Saibamen are dumb as mud. I don't think they can even fly

And a nuke isn't necessary, just flood an area you know it's in with poison gas. As a planet, it should be more responsive to that
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Dec 19 2014, 08:13 PM
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Dec 19 2014, 12:05 PM
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Dec 19 2014, 10:26 AM
how so? since when did rival in strength mean the same as similar durability
saibamens best feat are taking a few hits from yamcha and not dying which isnt saying all that much
Do you not know how powerscaling works?

They have stats similar to raditz since they rival him

Raditz > saibamen > Boz piccolo who vaporized the moon

These little green things are durable
There's is no factual evidence in scaling at all.
According to your "logic"

I'm using things presented in the manga

Powerscaling is nothing new the manga does it all the tine
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yeah, but the only thing you can powerscale from a green bean
is that he took a few hits from yamcha so he should be below human durability
theres ur power scaling
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Dec 20 2014, 12:09 AM
yeah, but the only thing you can powerscale from a green bean
is that he took a few hits from yamcha so he should be below human durability
theres ur power scaling
What?

I must be getting trolled
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According to your "logic"

I'm using things presented in the manga

Powerscaling is nothing new the manga does it all the tine


According to fan logic not fact.

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I'm just going to say that humans wouldn't even be able to see the Saibaman. Gohan had to really struggle to see it battling, and he was already over 1,000 in battle power. Humans with a power level of ~5 don't have the ability to see the thing at all. Perhaps some sort of heat seeking missile could be used on it, but I bet the Saibaman could survive it. A nuke is needed here if it could even hit the thing.


True.
However, we don't need to use humans to fight a computer can do targeting just fine they have far better "reflexes" than people. Saibamen can't rival computers at all.

Railgun + powerful warhead, if the sheer impact doesn't kill it the explosion will.


The Saibaman has very little options whereas we can attack it from miles away on the ground, miles away in the air, the sea and even space.
Regardless of how fast it goes, which isn't all that, viewing it from distance would be easy in the exact same way that you can see satellites in the sky even though they're going thousands of kilometers an hour.


Humans are incapable of beating a Saibaman, but our technology isn't.
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Fan logic when the series itself has power scaling via power levels lel
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Dec 20 2014, 12:16 AM
Yondaime
Dec 20 2014, 12:09 AM
yeah, but the only thing you can powerscale from a green bean
is that he took a few hits from yamcha so he should be below human durability
theres ur power scaling
What?

I must be getting trolled
No troll accusing, please.
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We don't even need to directly fight the Saibaman. It could be chillaxin' in the fields or something and we send in some random plane not even near it over head, spilling out chemicals or what not, chemicals that don't even have to be visible to the naked eye I'm sure, and the thing wouldn't even know what was going on. It probably wouldn't even sense a threat until its already chocking on Saibathrax or something.

Taking out a Saibaman would be hellishly easy for us. We could honestly take out many of the DBZ characters besides a select few with our biological, chemical and heat based weapons. If push comes to shove and we have to send out the nuclear weapons than so be it. We don't have to hit the thing directly. It's not like we drop a nuke and it avoids the actual bomb and suddenly it avoids all damage. We can land something a bit away from it and the scope of the attack will reach it.

But its not the physical damage that matters in this case, though for a little Saibaman that may not be the case. The case is that, we have some powerful indirect weaponry such as chemical and biological warfare that unfortunately the DBZverse can't handle in many cases.

If we have to, if we got to make a few sacrifices for the greater good. We'd be flying around, sending out all kinds of missiles, guns, weapons, chemical and biological warfare. If things get real serious we be dropping nukes down on places. Gases of all kind be going around, strange diseases and stuff. This is our territory people. You don't come here to our planet, trying to talk big and expect not to get shot.

But you know the real thing is? We only have to win once. A Saibaman basically has to defeat the entire Earth's army. We have to take out one Saibaman...the odds not in its favor.
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Saiyan children are sent to destroy worlds which are both technologically inferior and have a much weaker population. Raditz said goku would have eradicated the inhabitants of earth in a few years or so and i doubt a saiyan baby, even as an oozaru would be more powerful than a saibaman. I think if the saibaman is told to come here and destroy no weapon we have would be able to hurt it.


I personally have the DB/DBZ world army as much superior to real life, we don't have fighting robots, we can't build androids of that calibre and we sure as hell don't have flying cars or anything else. Just because it is portrayed more cartoonish(it is a bloody cartoon) doesn't mean it isn't superior.
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We don't have fighting robots, no, but their general military force seemed genuinely pathetic compared to ours.

If somebody wants to bring in power scaling, would it work the other way? What would a normal human's DC be if they could use ki?
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Dec 20 2014, 07:44 AM
Saiyan children are sent to destroy worlds which are both technologically inferior and have a much weaker population. Raditz said goku would have eradicated the inhabitants of earth in a few years or so and i doubt a saiyan baby, even as an oozaru would be more powerful than a saibaman. I think if the saibaman is told to come here and destroy no weapon we have would be able to hurt it.


I personally have the DB/DBZ world army as much superior to real life, we don't have fighting robots, we can't build androids of that calibre and we sure as hell don't have flying cars or anything else. Just because it is portrayed more cartoonish(it is a bloody cartoon) doesn't mean it isn't superior.
Somethings are superior, yes, but you shouldn't use those handful as means of giving an overall victory.

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Dec 20 2014, 01:09 AM
Fan logic when the series itself has power scaling via power levels lel
Show me where it ever states that PL is directly relative to every attribute.

The whole point of PL's are to show how unreliable they are which is why they become irrelevant so quickly.


The Red Ribbon army was pathetic the only advanced technology they had was robots other than that they had WW2 era guns not 50.cal machine guns, incendiary rounds, explosive rounds, uranium shells, no artillery of any sort was shown IIRC either it was pretty much just a bunch of dudes fighting Goku.

The best the army in DBZ had was jets.

How would a Saibaman deal with 100 drones firing missiles at it? It wouldn't even be able to sense them so it'd probably try tank them or just get hit from not being able to dodge, same with nukes if it got that far, which is doubtful.
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The U.S. Air Force would have a field day with a single Saibaman. It would be a fight in the shade as all of those missiles and bombs were dropped on it without it even knowing what's coming.

As for naval railguns, I don't think a Saibaman could react fast enough to see it coming. Most recent railguns can fire 18-inch shells at or around Mach 7 (2,382 m/s), which is more than midway through the hypersonic tier and closer to high-hypersonic than supersonic. The only disadvantage to naval railguns is that the subject needs to be within 230 miles to be accurately hit.

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